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Mireille
Guiliano
NEW YORK
(NYTimes) February 15, 200
—
The author of the
best seller
"French
Women Don't Get Fat" answered questions from readers.
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HOW TO EAT Mireille
Guiliano, an author and executive, at Cafe Gray in New York.
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Q. 1. I am a thin French woman despite the
fact that I have been living for many years in this Bible Belt small city, where
most women are indeed extremely overweight. But my slenderness is not due to a
conscious choice. I simply don't like food, particularly French food, which
makes me nauseous: too creamy, oily, sauce-oriented, etc.
My question: what would you suggest for me to
do in order to actually LOVE food? I do eat some because I need it to survive. I
tend to find Mediterranean ways of cooking in the Midi of France, as well as
simple Chinese or Japanese fare, less objectionable, somewhat tastier and less
fatty. But I do not take any real pleasure in it, neither in preparing food nor
in eating it. What would you suggest, particularly in terms of FOOD PREPARATION
pleasure?
- Cleo, College Station, Tex.
A. I like to believe, Cleo, that everyone
has latent gastronomic pleasures just waiting to be awakened and when they are,
life only gets better. While my whole book is really the answer to your
question, I will share a few big and related thoughts. You are obviously very
sensitive; that can be made into a plus rather than a minus. Begin by slowly
discovering some taste preferences and then cultivating pleasure in those. For
instance, some people adore basil as a seasoning, others find it overwhelming.
Try sniffing several alternatives: rosemary, sage, thyme. If rosemary, say, is
appealing, at the level of fragrance, chances are you will like it in food
(since much of taste is smell). If so, try the simplest preparation you can with
a sprig of rosemary on a piece of fish or chicken, whatever seems more
appealing, brushed with a bit of oil (grape-seed oil for instance is very
nutritious and without flavor of its own) and seasoned with a bit of salt,
perhaps a little squeeze of (fresh!) lemon. When you eat, concentrate on the new
flavor, as well as the texture and the appearance of your menu portion.
Even if you're not big on cooking, preparing
food with our own hands prevents our being joyless alienation from what we are
eating. Chop everything by hand (no machines). One of the great things about
cooking is the relatively instant gratification you get from completing a task
then enjoying it by eating. Don't you feel good about checking off little or
not-so-little projects? Cleaning a closet. Getting past those income tax
returns? Buying clothes for a special event? If you can learn to take pride in
shopping and cooking, there are inner rewards there as well ... at least that's
how I look at it and feel.
Finally, I invite you to be bold and open
minded in your approach to new foods. Some are acquired tastes. Think about
sushi. Who would have thought raw fish would become a passion for people around
the globe? You appear to like it. Some people still can't quite get up the
courage to try. And no one says you have to like French food or any other
cuisine. Certainly there are some that I like a lot less than others. As far as
French fare goes, it is a lot different today than the stereotypical rich,
creamy sauces of a generation ago. Since the 1970's it has evolved to be lighter
and leaner and more Asian influenced, but that doesn't mean some of the bistro
classic comfort foods don't have a delicious place now and again. And you don't
have to go to Paris to experience the best (but, hey, go for it if you can);
there are a host of wonderful French-American restaurants in the U.S., notably
in New York and a few other major cities. Treat yourself to the best and see if
you like it. At home, another tip would be to start tasting things you have
never tasted before: a new vegetable or perhaps a cheese. Anyway, I'm glad you
want to discover your gastronomic pleasures. Who knows? Good luck and bon
appetit.
Q. 2. I lived in Chalons sur Marne from
August 1958 to the beginning of 1961. We could take the time to cook things
slowly and enjoy them. How do you find the time to make the meals you write
about? After working, commuting home, shopping and getting home I'm just too
tired to think of cooking. Please, I want to change but don't see how.
- Thilde Peterson, Henderson, Nev.
A. I certainly understand this time
dilemma: the belief or reality of too much to do in this life and too little
time. And life's exigencies seemingly take away all discretionary moments.
Still, it is really all a question of prioritizing and planning. In order to
find the time, you have to commit yourself to finding it, convincing yourself
that nothing is more basic to a happy and civilized life than a civilized
relation to food. You owe this to yourself and your loved ones. You gotta eat,
after all, why not make the best of it. Certainly in my professional life, I
have to prioritize constantly and am amazed by the time-consuming demands that
just are not important. They are the first to go to free up time for what's
important for business or me personally.
Can you find 30 minutes a night for cooking?
60 minutes? That's all you need. Shopping is another task, but that can be
managed efficiently with a little planning. Most people in this country are
extremely busy - or at least have convinced themselves they are by filling up
the hours with all sorts of things - but quality of life revolves around the
things we enjoy doing, not the things we have to do. And what's the point of
getting everything on your list done without quality of life? Of course the
workweek limits those of us who work outside the home. During the week, my
preparations are much less elaborate than they are during the weekend. But there
are many simple and delicious things one can make if one lets go the notion that
cooking is a big job, with a big clean up afterwards. (My book has lots of no
fuss recipes. I made that a priority. ) And home cooking makes excellent
leftovers, so why not commit to cooking three or four nights a week and spend
seven civilized nights. Life improvement guaranteed.
Q. 3. Do you think there is societal
pressure or other inherent stress that causes some American women to binge eat?
Or that perhaps looking around they feel safety in numbers?
- bobbean, upstate New York
A. Important topic and practice. I wouldn't
say there is a societal pressure to binge. Nobody admires a glutton or takes
refuge in group solidarity from the pain of feeling fat.
But stress in our lifestyle definitely
drives bingeing. It's almost as if we displace our anxiety by trying to devour
it. Food becomes a substitute for emotional comfort. But bingeing is not a
pleasure, it's a release, just as drinking too much is a release, and both are
unhealthy. Like any other good thing, food can be abused, and certainly it's the
most readily available thing to abuse. I know first hand, that a piece of
chocolate can be a great pacifier, but can lead to a second and a third and then
the box or bar is gone. That's bingeing, and you don't feel good about it
afterwards, either. Again, know your own demon offenders and, as I explain in
the book, learn to trick your mind into compensating in other healthy ways.
Q. 4. Do you believe [the argument
in your book] represents all French women or French women from certain types of
areas, i.e. suburban vs. rural French women?
- Sara Hinderer, Cleveland
A. Perhaps people have been taking my title
far too literally. It's meant as a provocation and a broadly true observation.
There are obviously some fat French women, though admittedly fewer in urban
areas. My argument is that, on the whole, French women, regardless of geography,
don't get fat as long as they possess a traditional French relationship to
eating. And the statistics overwhelmingly support that claim. I can't speak for
the ones drawn to McDonald's, or to the growing number of immigrants who have
perhaps not yet had the opportunity to absorb the gift of French gastronomy.
Also, France is still an agrarian country with regional cuisine consumed in
relation to fresh, local produce, so there's not a standard formula for what all
French women eat. That's a point I embrace: eat what you need and enjoy but find
your own equilibrium. And so long as we are talking about adult French women -
say 21 or better 25 years old and up, there's no getting away from the
significant cultural difference in my view between their relationship with food
and eating for pleasure with women in other countries.
Q. 5. It is my impression that the French
smoke more than Americans. I have even heard it said that the decline in smoking
in America is partly to blame for the rise in obesity. How does smoking play a
role in French women's ability to stay thin?
- Liz, Longmeadow, Mass.
A. No, Liz, but I'm so glad you asked that
question. This is a very popular myth about French women. And I am startled that
people who have not read my book are writing to me and posting notes saying that
French women don't get fat because they smoke a lot. Nonsense. It's as if they
want a simple reason to avoid embracing a new approach to eating for pleasure
and to dismiss the vast majority of French women who are simply not nearly as
overweight as our American counterparts.
French men do smoke more than American men (33
percent vs. 24 percent), but with women it's about the same (21 percent France;
20 percent U.S.). And a lot of those French female smokers are young women in
their teens and twenties who have not found their equilibrium in relation to a
lot of things, just like in America. Is obesity in America related to less
smoking? Hardly. One might argue if one substitutes a cigarette for a snack, you
might not get fat. But it doesn't appear smoking or non-smoking women in America
are skipping their snacks or full plates, and women in France don't snack. So, I
don't see the connection. I'm not a scientist, but while it's plausible that one
oral gratification might be substituted for another if you don't have a properly
cultivated relation to food, the transference isn't all that simple and smoking
isn't the proven vehicle by any means. But as I tell in the book, I have known
women who ate badly because they were smokers: smoking deadens the taste buds,
and one eats more to get the same taste pleasure, often with a greater taste for
fats.
Q. 6. Are the recipes in your
book what you would term easy or time consuming, with common ingredients or
specialty items?
- John Wilson, Omak, Wash.
A. Most are easy and cheap - a lot of bang for
your buck. I made sure of that, and many reviews have commented on the simple,
delicious recipes. Simple fresh ingredients are easy to whip into something
delicious. The point is not to buy second-rate. Sure, in towns and cities in
France there are more open markets (the food is fresher and cheaper) and green
markets are less common in America, but there are amazing things to be found in
all sorts of specialty stores and nowadays in good supermarkets. If you embrace
what I say in the book, you'll appreciate that you are your own master and
substitutions are welcomed. The book is currently scheduled for 22 foreign
language editions, and I just read some queries from a translator asking for
substitutions or at least alternatives to some of the fish and vegetables I
recommend that just are not common in that part of the world. No problem. Go for
what's available and good. I do have a few luxury items. In that category there
are fingerling potatoes with caviar. They make brilliant hors d'oeuvres, but are
not in everyone's budget, of course, though they could be for a very special
occasion since you don't need much. So I always include a more affordable
alternative (e.g., chopped chives instead of caviar or fish roe that's
increasingly available and good across America). I do have a few recipes that
take time - a lot of time, and that's entirely on purpose, like baking bread or
making your own croissants. Obviously these are weekend projects, and more
serious commitments, but they unlock certain experiences you just can't enjoy
any other way. (If you've never baked your own bread, you don't know what you're
missing!)
Q. 7. How do French women and men
deal with sweets, pastries, desserts? How often do they eat them and in what
quantities?
- Steve Baima, Warren, Mass.
A. As in every culture, sweet tooths vary a
lot. I've always had a big one, and as I tell it was my downfall during my
adolescence. A well-trained French palate has a measured appreciation of sweets.
A rich dessert rarely follows a rich meal, after which a sorbet or a wonderful
ripe piece of fruit would be more pleasantly satisfying. (Those "napoleons,"
that the French call millefeuilles, are more for occasional indulgence, such as
an afternoon tea.) When a more desserty dessert is served, a French woman
usually contents herself with three fork-fulls, since taste satisfaction is
generally to be found in the first few bites. (At that point in the meal, you
can't say you're eating out of hunger! Practice a little restraint, and you
don't need to deprive yourself of anything.) Two more things I note about
desserts in America versus France. In America, the desserts are sweeter with
much more sugar generally added. If you bake at home, trying cutting back the
sugar in the recipes in half. I regularly do that and find the desserts more to
my taste and certainly less cloying. And, of course, American desserts win the
gold medal for size ... jumbo size. My husband and I don't skip the pleasure of
a good dessert but generally pick one for two when we dine out.
Q. 8. How do you adapt your
eating habits to accommodate a changing metabolic rate as you age?
- Diana Buck, Pittsburgh, Pa.
A. You are talking to the right person, Diana.
I certainly can't handle the wine or desserts that I could in my twenties. In
the book I describe the various life phases when one should stop and take stock,
make small adjustments and compensations. But regardless of age, the basic
principle is always the same: small changes, taking from Peter to pay Paul. It's
easy to do slight portion reductions as we age because older stomachs tend to be
more delicate. You don't need to cut out entirely anything you enjoy as long as
you remain open to cutting back slightly (this is the essence of my "fool
yourself" advice - small changes add up but don't have to put a dent in our
enjoyment). Also, one shouldn't accept metabolic decline as inevitable if we can
remain active. Try increasing your walk time, and if you are past 40 you must do
some strength training with dumbbells. (Unless we resist we naturally lose
muscle mass as we age, and the less muscle mass you have the lower your
metabolism).
Q. 9. An etiquette question: why
do the French never place their bread directly on the dinner plate? Is there
some historical reason for this?
- Brooks Doherty, Minneapolis, Minn.
A. It seems to me more gastronomic aesthetics
than etiquette. As a rule, the plate is the frame, so to speak, for the course
one is eating - a space surrounding a moderate portion arranged as attractively
as possible in the center. A French plate is never laden with food on the edge,
which is where some non-Frenchwoman would likely place bread. We don't find
anything gauche about laying one's bread on the tablecloth. Indeed, bread is
such a tactile part of French lives that people are always carrying baguettes
and breaking off pieces by hand. It's French finger food. Only in the most
formal settings would a bread plate be de rigueur. So, at a bistro you'd get a
bread basket and no bread plate and at a fancy haute-cuisine restaurant, you'd
get a plate that a waiter comes around and places bread on during the meal,
often different breads with different courses.
Q. 10. How to win a French
woman's heart?
- Wil, New York
A. I love your question. It seems to me you
have to start by finding a French woman. France isn't a bad place to start. They
have a lot of single French women, and the food isn't bad, either. Of course,
you can frequent places in the U.S. that attract French women (forget gyms) -
and there are many around the country. You write from New York, which certainly
has the greatest number, but I'll leave it to you to figure this all out. But
assuming you have found the woman of your dreams, then there's the inner her you
must win.
Speaking now as a French woman, let me say
that since we cultivate joie de vivre showing an appreciation for that
is the key. Respect and enhance the enjoyment she derives using her senses in
tiny thoughtful ways - some flowers for no reason, a divine piece of chocolate
left for her to find with a sweet note. Champagne is great. All the old
clichés…they became clichés because they work and are used again and again. And
be sure to be open to the pleasure of the senses yourself. American men can be
so joylessly pragmatic sometimes and short of spontaneity, delight in the
moment. Above all make her laugh, and that applies to all women the world over. |
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